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Old 05-12-2007, 10:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

Think about it. The 4th is about the Declaration of Independence, the most liberal document in world history. The document basically told the very conservative leaders of a global empire ' You're not our boss anymore, and here's why '. Then it listed a slew of assumed rights not assumed anywhere else before in history!
That document basically asserted the identity of America. So, liberals are, actually, responsible for the existence of America itself as well.
Can Wacko, Texas conservatives admit to these facts? Isn't it true that the freedoms and rights we enjoy today as Americans were provided to us by founding liberals?
Garyb, many liberals are christians, guns rights for citizens are also a liberal right, as are the individual rights you mention. Things then were not always as they are now. Please re-read your history.
Seems to be a lot of uninformed tax nonsense here. Three Republican presidents are responsible for 75% of the country's total debt ever. If anyone wastes money, it's Republicans.
Some dumb name-calling out there. I guess if you can't refute this, that the best some here can do.
5 or 6 good answers so far in the running. You have to know some history and modern politics, people. Things have not always been as they are now.
Pfo, Daniel W, Jules all certainly have part of this. Zog also does. Who can tie all this together? Three nice ' unity' people here also. This isn't about divisive politics. It's about what you know about your country.
OK, Time's Up: Yes, liberal then meant something different than now. But it still applies more to liberals today than conservatives because of the last for GOP presidents.
Will there be another American Revolution someday? Undoubtedly, in this age of freedom-killing wiretappers.
It's a nice idea to put politics aside for the day. But some Americans in Iraq will be shot on the 4th. Celebrate your holiday knowing that.
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

You're totally right.
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Old 05-22-2007, 10:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

Man, you need to take a lot of history classes before you try talking with the big kids.
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

What ever floats your boat. Those "liberals" today would be roasted alive as war mongers and baby killers bu the POS' that use the title liberal.

Why are liberals today trying to undermine most of those rights?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

LOL that...is...RICH

Are you a defense attorney?
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

There is a difference between trying to right a wrong and being a liberal idiot.
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:11 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

Keep smokin that joint bra, keep smokin it.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

Why don't people understand the simple fact that 1776 liberal is more or less a modern day Libertarian, and that a modern day liberal is NOTHING like a liberal from the 18th century. The 18th Century liberal valued natural rights and self-determination over all else. Modern liberals (and to be fair, Conservatives to an extent) want to tell people how to live their lives, and then provide them with handouts if they fail, or choose not to work. Get a clue.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Isn't the 4th of July a liberal holiday?

Its a US holiday......

I'm amazed as liberals preach tolerance and being all inclusive...but even a holiday is now a spin.

Also the founding fathers and most that died in the Rev war were christian fundamentalist..... and believed in individual over state and government rights, the right to bear arms,...so suggest maybe retake the American History course one more time.

Edit: Did read history...suggest you stay away from revisionist history.....
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